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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:13 am 
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majestic wrote:
Heh nice :) I'm currently working on my own verticies welding script to reduce amount of vertices in the model (I can't use meshop.deleteIsoVerts I think you know why). I can't use 3ds-max welding tool because it welds all vertices, but I need to weld only certain vertices to make the model looks like original one and also DFF IO can't export normals properly from the mesh builded from separate triangle strips without some corrections into DFF export script.
Here comparsion:

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Looks good, man!

I really do not know why you can't use meshop.deleteIsoVerts .
I can use this function to remove 443 vertices.(original have 3506 vertices)

You only need to remove an equal vertices and vertices not used by a face.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:36 am 
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meshop.deleteIsoVerts totally broke normals in my mesh, but after welding vertices I can do anyhing with the mesh. Anyway output welded model looks like original one.

Middle model - welded with 3ds max tools. Other two - original and welded with my algorithm. Can you guess which one from those two is original? :)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:34 am 
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majestic wrote:
meshop.deleteIsoVerts totally broke normals in my mesh, but after welding vertices I can do anyhing with the mesh. Anyway output welded model looks like original one.

Middle model - welded with 3ds max tools. Other two - original and welded with my algorithm. Can you guess which one from those two is original? :)
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To be honest,Can't see what is different on both sides. Well done! :lol:
I do not think meshop.deleteIsoVerts would broken normal.
left is original,right is After execution. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:39 am 
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Hm strange. Here imported Leo through my old MH2 PS2 mesh importer which I have used for converting some beta stuff to PC. Originally model should look like that in render (except flipped faces of course :) ):
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And only after "execution" that model will look like on your screen. Seems you already broke normals while importing mesh.

Also I notice you found a solution for flipped faces already?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:41 am 
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majestic wrote:
Hm strange. Here imported Leo through my old MH2 PS2 mesh importer which I have used for converting some beta stuff to PC. Originally model should look like that in render (except flipped faces of course :) ):
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And only after "execution" that model will look like on your screen. Seems you already broke normals while importing mesh.

Also I notice you found a solution for flipped faces already?


Perhaps this is the cause of the error:
1.In the code below I had just added a "update msh", this function resets the normals.
2.There is another reason: When I give mesh a texture map will appear this problem.
3.After the execution would indeed destroy normal. :P

Like this? This should be a correct normal!
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Yes, I have a solution, but like I said, some models face still have this problem. Not 100% solved!
I can send you solution by bbs PM .I do not want published. Not to the time.Because I did not publish the new script .:)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:14 am 
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Normals destroying because seems after any meshop 3ds max update the mesh what causes normals reset. So I don't use any meshop because of that. Interesting that when I choose "Skin" modifier in stack - all normals recalculating and fucked up, but if I select "Editable Mesh" all original normals are back again :)

Can you send to me your solution for flipped faces?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:05 pm 
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Here another Vcolor decoding script for PSP:

Code:
VertColor = ReadShort MDL #unsigned               
VertColorRed = (bit.and VertColor 0x001F)*8
VertColorGreen = (bit.shift (bit.and VertColor 0x03E0) -5)*8
VertColorBlue = (bit.shift (bit.and VertColor 0x7C00) -10)*8
VertColorAlpha = (bit.shift (bit.and VertColor 0x8000) -15)*255


Code written by me so you can use it if you want instead of previous code which I took from MDL Importer by AK-73.

Also this may help you to reduce your code:

VertexElementTypesPS2:

Code:
VertexDataFlags = ReadByte MDL

ModelHasSkinData = bit.get VertexDataFlags 5
ModelHasNormals = bit.get VertexDataFlags 2
ModelHasVCol = bit.get VertexDataFlags 4
Models always have UV so constantly ModelHaveUV = true


VertexElementTypesPSP:

Code:
VertexDataFlags = ReadByte MDL
ReadByte MDL
SkinFlag = ReadByte MDL #unsigned

SmallCoords = bit.get VertexDataFlags 8 //In GTA models of weapons use signed bytes instead of signed shorts to store vertex coords. You'll need to divide them to 127.0 like normals to get coords. Maybe Manhunt2 don't use that way to store coords at all but who knows :)
ModelHasNormals = bit.get VertexDataFlags 6
ModelHasUV = bit.get VertexDataFlags 1 // In few models in GTA I have noticed no UV data. I don't know maybe some Manhunt2 models have no UV too
ModelHasVCol = bit.get VertexDataFlags 3
if SkinFlag>1 then ModelHasSkinData= true


Check other bytes to determine other vertex element types. In GTA seems to be used only these

Hope this helps you somehow

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:55 pm 
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majestic wrote:
Here another Vcolor decoding script for PSP:

Code:
VertColor = ReadShort MDL #unsigned               
VertColorRed = (bit.and VertColor 0x001F)*8
VertColorGreen = (bit.shift (bit.and VertColor 0x03E0) -5)*8
VertColorBlue = (bit.shift (bit.and VertColor 0x7C00) -10)*8
VertColorAlpha = (bit.shift (bit.and VertColor 0x8000) -15)*255


Code written by me so you can use it if you want instead of previous code which I took from MDL Importer by AK-73.

Also this may help you to reduce your code:

VertexElementTypesPS2:

Code:
VertexDataFlags = ReadByte MDL

ModelHasSkinData = bit.get VertexDataFlags 5
ModelHasNormals = bit.get VertexDataFlags 2
ModelHasVCol = bit.get VertexDataFlags 4
Models always have UV so constantly ModelHaveUV = true


VertexElementTypesPSP:

Code:
VertexDataFlags = ReadByte MDL
ReadByte MDL
SkinFlag = ReadByte MDL #unsigned

SmallCoords = bit.get VertexDataFlags 8 //In GTA models of weapons use signed bytes instead of signed shorts to store vertex coords. You'll need to divide them to 127.0 like normals to get coords. Maybe Manhunt2 don't use that way to store coords at all but who knows :)
ModelHasNormals = bit.get VertexDataFlags 6
ModelHasUV = bit.get VertexDataFlags 1 // In few models in GTA I have noticed no UV data. I don't know maybe some Manhunt2 models have no UV too
ModelHasVCol = bit.get VertexDataFlags 3
if SkinFlag>1 then ModelHasSkinData= true


Check other bytes to determine other vertex element types. In GTA seems to be used only these

Hope this helps you somehow


Thank you guys! Recent business trip, busy. Did not get back to you.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:07 pm 
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K. So how do we import those PSP models? I would like to fix this:
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:28 pm 
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majestic wrote:
If not I can help you to get clean wireframe without them and without breaking normals by defferent meshops
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Hi @majestic!

Do you have anyway can not broken normal?

No matter how I do, would broken normal!

max will automatically calculate the normals, so missing normal!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:59 pm 
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LOOKIN GOOD! its been getting better. all the progress is making me happy. I plan to release afull manhunt 2 ack with all beta executions and hd textures, along with some added charcter models like flashback danny. You guys are gettin so close. keep it up! :)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:15 am 
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StarkTomb0625 wrote:
LOOKIN GOOD! its been getting better. all the progress is making me happy. I plan to release afull manhunt 2 ack with all beta executions and hd textures, along with some added charcter models like flashback danny. You guys are gettin so close. keep it up! :)


Thanks ! With your support, let me have more confidence!


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Support makes the mind and body work better. Art is nothing without people to adore. Keep up the good work Allen. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:02 pm 
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anybody know how to put the newspaper model, dildo model, mace model, and milkbottle models into the psp version?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:41 am 
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StarkTomb0625 wrote:
anybody know how to put the newspaper model, dildo model, mace model, and milkbottle models into the psp version?

I think the PSP version of the player is a niche groups. Not popular.
Should be able to do this, but it takes a lot of energy.

If I remember correctly,dildo model is PS2 model? maybe can write a simple converter to do it.


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